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Info-Mac Digest             Tue,  6 Jul 93       Volume 11 : Issue 136

Today's Topics:

      [!] Apple to restructure over next 12 months
      [*] LC-Anim-1.5.sit.hqx
      [*] park-haven.hqx
      [*] UserInterface/TouchFolder-100.hqx
      "Cannot Open File" errors
      (?) BBS Software for Mac
      (A) emergency -- pb140
      (C) I-M Sexual Harassment
      (C) Mac-o-phile review of Jurassic Park
      American Heritage Dictionary
      American Heritage Dictionary (A)
      Apple's job cuts
      Apple II product info (A)
      Archie Search Report
      Area Codes and Zip Codes
      Autosave: the saga continues ...
      Backup Program
      Can I Change My SE/30 ROMs?
      Copyright (R)
      Dollars ans $ense (R)
      Easy View 2.3
      EasyView backward search request
      Hard Drive Problem - A BIG ONE
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #130
      Keyboard Numbers for PB 180
      LaserWriter 8.0
      LaserWriter 8 and A4 paper as the default
      LaserWriter 8 and PostScript file creation
      Laserwriter drivers pre-v8 and PathWorks for VMS 1.2
      LocalTalk on Ethernet (Q)
      Mac TSP v.4.2 (C)
      MS, Mac Toolbox and dynamic menus
      MS Word and the Menu Manager
      MS Word documents
      Need System 3.3 Disks
      NowSave
      Please enlighten me (Q)
      PowerBook 145B
      PowerBook 145C Screen
      Program startup screen (?)
      Prograph Discussion where abouts.
      Quadra Boot Beep Switcher (PowerBook Chimes)
      System software won't install (Q)
      Think Reference

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 11:09:09 PDT
From: The Moderators <[e-mail]>
Subject: [!] Apple to restructure over next 12 months

Apple to Restructure Over Next 12 Months

CUPERTINO, California--July 6, 1993--Apple Computer, Inc. today confirmed that
it intends to implement, over the next 12 months, a broad re-engineering of
the
company to accelerate revenue, unit, and earnings growth.  The re-engineering
will include a workforce reduction of approximately 2,500 worldwide of AppleUs
16,000 full-time, temporary and contract employees, with the majority of
layoffs occuring in July, 1993.

Further details of the restructuring--including organizational changes
designed
to allow the company to compete more effectively--will be communicated by
Apple
in the near future.

Restructuring costs for the workforce reduction will be accounted for in
the companyUs third fiscal quarter, which ended June 25, 1993.


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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 23:16:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Dr. Cool" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] LC-Anim-1.5.sit.hqx

This is a rendered animation about the Macintosh LC.  It features a flying =
Apple logo spinning into place on a 3-D metal plate, with the letters =D2LC=
=D3 zooming behind, around, and in front of the plate and coming into place=
 below the Apple logo.  Believe me, it is MUCH better than it sounds.  I ca=
n=D5t describe how good it is, you just have to see it.  It=D5s in full 8-b=
it color, about 15 seconds long and has 15 frame-per-second animation.  It =
is impressive, to say the least.

This makes an EXCELLENT startup animation.  It is an application, so you ca=
n just double-click to view it immediately, or put it in the Startup Items =
folder of the System Folder so it will play upon startup.

Note:  It does NOT require QuickTime and will run under System 6 and 7.  It=
 looks best in 8-bit color, and by no means requires a Macintosh LC (even i=
f the =D2theme=D3 is featured in the animation).

I don=D5t have an Internet account... A friend of mine (Dr. Kool) is upload=
ing this to several Internet FTP sites.  If you wish to contact me, just e-=
mail him with =D2To: Rick Cowgill=D3 in the Subject line.  He will get the =
message to me.  His e-mail address is =[e-mail]=D3.

And may Enya live forever.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/lc-animation-15.hqx; 949K]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 02:36:28 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Shishin Yamada)
Subject: [*] park-haven.hqx

Hello all. This is the second attempt at posting this to sumex-aim.
Please Note: I am NOT the author of this font. I have merely used
Fontmongger to translate this Postscript font into TrueType form.

ParkHaven is a very nice cursive font that the author supposedly
modeled on his very neat (IMHO) handwriting. It's very snazzy. One
possible problem, that may just be the fault of TrueType conversion,
is the lack of a space key. Another font's space may be substituted.
I'm not sure about fixing it, because I didn't want to change the
author's original version (if you get his permission, I'd be willing
to help then). Hope you like the font... And any credits or cash
should of course go to him... I just did the conversion for a friend,
but I don't keep many fonts around on my powerbook.
     [e-mail]

A shortened (and slightly edited) cutout of the author's blurb follows:
>
>Hello Font Lover,
>
>Previously, I had become very discouraged by distributing my work on
>CompuServe.  A couple of bad experiences made it difficult for me to
>continue.  However, recently I have received some recognition (Thank
>you Richard Eckhardt), and it has made me rethink my position.
>
>The economy is bad in Louisiana and I am not doing well.  You may
>have noticed the address change.  I cannot afford the time on
>CompuServe except for uploading.  Also, my troubles are your gain for
>neither can I afford to do any other kind of marketing for my work
>other than ShareWare (they would cost at least twice as much or
>more).  And just having me "sit on these faces" (pun intended) is not
>doing any good for myself or anyone else.
>
>The fee for this typeface is $15 as is, check or money order
>(preferred). Or send $20 and a disk and a list of the sizes of the
>bitmaps you would like to have and I will try to oblige (within
>reason...)
>
>                          PLEASE PAY ME...
>
>                                  Thank you.
>
>Francis X. "Butch" Mahoney, Jr.
>302 Lessard St.
>Donaldsonville, La. 70346
>[phone]
>

[Archived as /info-mac/font/tt/park-haven.hqx; 53K]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 16:30:03 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] UserInterface/TouchFolder-100.hqx

TouchFolder 1.0.0

Requires System 7.

I occasionally find myself wondering, "Did I work on this project
today?" The simple thing would be to look at the modification date
of the folder containing the project.  Only that doesn't get
updated when a file is modified, only if it is added or deleted.

So this quick hack will update a folder's modification date to
reflect the most recently modified file within it (or in any nested
folders in it).  Just drag 'n' drop the folder (or folders) you
want onto TouchFolder, and presto!  If the folder already has a
later mod date than any of its files, it will be left alone.  Also,
the  nested folders are NOT modified, though their contents are
scanned.

Freeware.

Kevin R. Boyce                  [e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/disk/touch-folder-10.hqx; 23K]

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 14:31:30 -0400
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: "Cannot Open File" errors

     "Cannot Open File" errors
I have a user that has a PageMaker 4.2 document on a floppy disk that's pretty
big (1300K).  When she tried to access it, she got the message:

    Cannot open file

    Fatal error: You may recover work up to the last mini-save
    by re-opening the file.
                         7009:20551

I, as their computer support person, have tried numerous file recovery
techniques to ressurect this file.  I've used Disk Tools, Norton Utilities,
and
MacTools.  I was able to recover the file to my hard drive, but when I tried
opening it from there, it gives me the following error message:

    Cannot open file

    Internal error: Generic bad parameters.
                         7009:20519

I've tried everything that I normally try to recover this file.  Anyone have
any idea what's going on, and more importantly, is there any way of getting
this file back?

Please respond to me directly, because I'm not on the PAGEMAKR or MAC-L forum,
and I'm trying to catch up on my INFO-MAC digests after being out for a week
and a half.  TIA.


Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 16:00:15 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (?) BBS Software for Mac

Hello,

I need information about the commercial/shareware/public-domain
BSS software for Mac. The features that I would like to have are:

- e-mail
- support of multiple protocols for file downloading/uploading
- simple ascii interface so that non-Mac machines can be used
  for access
- to be able to handle incoming fax files (I have a fax modem,
  I am not sure if this feature is possible)

Please include where I can find the software in your response
and the price range if you can.

Thanks in advance.

-Tanju Cataltepe

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 08:57:05 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Gregory Jewett)
Subject: (A) emergency -- pb140

>I have a PB140.  It has been acting strange recently: it won't run off
>the battery.  It will show me that the battery is 1/2charged (it won't
>charge it further, btw) but it won't run w/o the power cord.  I tried
>to "fool" it by putting it to sleep and taking out the cord but it
>still doesn't work.  I tried another battery, same deal.

Sounds like the fuse on your motherboard is blown.  It happened to me, but
I was lucky that it happened while I was under my 1 year warrenty.

Here is how to find out.  Check the tip portion of the power adapter that
comes with your PowerBook.  There is a little black ceramic ring present.
Check for any chips or cracks.  If any are present, then this is the cause
of your problems.  The ring keeps the contacts from shorting out.  By being
chipped or cracked, it did not do its job, so that fuse on your motherboard
caught the short before it got any further.

Unfortunately, your dealer must follow standard Apple repair guidelines and
replace *whole* parts.  If one item on logic board is blown, then the whole
thing get replaced.  The is the same story that was heard before with a
gentleman trying to get his CDROM 300 fixed.  A gear in his drive mechanism
got chipped.  Instead of just replacing a $0.15 gear, Apple required his
dealer to replace the whole drive mechanism, which would put him out $450.

I do not like the guidelines anymore than anyone else!  Sorry to bring the
bad news..

  ...Greg

** Gregory Jewett       Consultant/Programmer       [e-mail] **

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 08:57:12 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Gregory Jewett)
Subject: (C) I-M Sexual Harassment

>OK, I grant that I'm an n-DWEM (near-Dead White European-derived Male),
>so I probably wouldn't recognize sexual harassment if it walked up and
>introduced itself. And I grant that I've limited experience in this cold
>world. But I am curious. I'd like to ask the women on this forum if they
>have seen denigration, sexual harassment, whatever.

I too have been worried if I have offended anyone on the list.  I do try
very hard to edit out any generalizations and usage of male pronouns such
as HE and HIS, etc.., when re-reading any posts that I am going to make.

Thank you Al for bringing this up.   ..Greg

** Gregory Jewett       Consultant/Programmer       [e-mail] **

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 20:57:00 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Scott Paterson)
Subject: (C) Mac-o-phile review of Jurassic Park

[e-mail] writes:

>The two main types of computers I saw were Macintoshes and Silicon Graphics,
>both running UNIX (OK, OK, the Mac was running A/UX).  Both Apple and SGI
were
>listed in the credits.

>As far as the movie animation goes, Lucas' Industrial Light and Magic was
>listed in the credits for most if not all of the special effects.

>--Mark
>[e-mail]

Industrial Light & Magic (ILM) did all of the computer graphics, or, as they
like to call it (and how it's listed in the credits), they did all the
"Full Motion Dinosaurs."  They (ILM) did not do the animatronics which were
done by Stan Winston.  These include moving heads coming out of bushes and
the like.

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Date: 06 Jul 1993 11:16:59 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: American Heritage Dictionary

I got the same flyer.

I have been using the American Heritage EDUCATIONAL Dictionary
(AHED).  I started with the smaller version and upgraded to the
professional one this spring.  It is a complete dictionary
with definition and pronunciation.  The thesaurus is fine.
I haven't really compared it to Word 5.1.  The SearchText,
wildcard and angram options are sometimes useful.

AHED runs as a DA and its files are very large (9.2MB) on my
disk.  I use AutoDoubler so the files get compressed and I
notice no delays when they are accessed.

The flyer you got describes the American Heritage Dictionary
This is a different version from the one I have.  Their 800 number
tells me that it is the same as the printed version and that it is
completely updated only once each decade.

My only complaint with this company is that I upgraded to AHED in
April and they sent me another upgrade notice in June.  At $49.95
every 60 days, this could become a very expensive program.  The
best I was able to do after much discussion was to get then to
knock $10 off because of some special circumstance in my case that I
still don't understand.

Gary Lee Nelson, Professor
Electronic and Computer Music
TIMARA Program
Conservatory of Music
Oberlin, OH 44074
[phone]
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 10:28:15 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Eric W. Davies)
Subject: American Heritage Dictionary (A)

In reply to Patricio Mason's query about the electronic version of the
American Heritage Dictionary, I'm happy to summarize my experiences with
the package.  I upgraded recently from the Standard Edition to the new
Deluxe Edition.  This is not to be confused with the Professional Edition,
which I believe is still available, but probably shouldn't be.  My
understanding of the difference is that the Deluxe Edition is the new
version of the Professional Edition.  That is, it has all of the features
of the Professional Edition, but is based on the new edition of the printed
AH Dictionary, whereas the Professional Edition is based on the older
version.

Enough about that confusion though.  I have been exceptionally pleased with
the Deluxe Edition's functionality as an electronic dictionary.  Its
WordHunter
feature which lets you search for words based on keywords appearing in the
definition is fantastic.  So are its wildcard searching abilities (especially
if you do crossword puzzles and enjoy cheating).  Also exceptional is the
basic
information contained in the dictionary itself.  I compared a few random
entries
against the printed AH Dictionary and, much to my surprise, found the
electronic\
version more comprehensive!

In terms of integration on the Mac, you can use it as a stand-alone
application
or invoke it from within an application via an FKey (e.g. highlight a word in
an
application, press <CMD>-<SHIFT>-8, and up pops the entry for the highlighted
word).  I've encountered absolutely no bugs or incompatibilities (running
System 7.0.1 tuned in 32-bit mode on a IIsi with 17MB RAM & virtual memory
off).

Overall, the product is great and well worth the money.  The only warning I'll
give you is don't plan on getting a lot of use out of the thesaurus.  Many
words that I thought should have had entries didn't, and many that are present
have only one or two synonyms listed.  Again though, as a dictionary, I
heartily
recommend it!

Eric Davies
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93 0:02 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
Subject: Apple's job cuts

So the rumored job cuts have come to pass, to the tune of 15% worldwide.
I'll bet you won't catch Microsoft having to do that.

At least there was one thing to cheer me up today - I got e-mail from
David Thomas, lead singer with Pere Ubu and author of the Hypercard
stack I've been raving about that details the band's history.  Who says
you can't meet interesting folks via Internet?  Now the sooner I can get
the guy an account on a machine with a newsfeed, the better! :-)

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 14:17:03 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey T Berntsen)
Subject: Apple II product info (A)

[e-mail] writes:

>Dear Netters,
>For anyone interested:
>Apple II machines are not yet obsolete.
>More software and hardware information is still available from a monthly
>publication called "Incider: A+  Apple II/Macintosh"
>distributed by:

>IDG Communications/Petersborough Inc.
>80 Elm Street
>Petersborough NH 03458

>Hope this helps anyone still faithful to one Apple's early series of
>machines.

Unfortunately, this is no longer true.  IDG Communications is no longer
faithful to the Apple II machines.  Incider published it's last issue this
month.

Jeff Berntsen
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 93 11:53:40 CDT
From: Graeme Forbes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Archie Search Report

One way to get instructions on how to use Archie is to buy Ed Krol's
"The WHole Internet User's Guide and Catalog", O'Reilly and Associates.
Covers archie, gopher, ftp, wais and a bunch of other useful stuff.

Graeme Forbes

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Date: 06 Jul 1993 14:12:09 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Area Codes and Zip Codes

Can anyone point me to a piece of software for retrieving telephone
and postal codes?  The ones I find in info-mac are not complete
enough.

Gary Lee Nelson, Professor
Electronic and Computer Music
TIMARA Program
Conservatory of Music
Oberlin, OH 44074
[phone]
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 09:04:46 BST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Autosave: the saga continues ...

In I-M V11 #135, [e-mail] (Charlie Mingo) comments

>Subject: NowSave (C)
>
>[e-mail] (Adam C. Engst) writes:
>
>> Word has one of the worst implementations of autosave that
>> I've seen. Of course I want to autosave the file, you stupid
>> program, don't keep asking me...
>
>> ...And of
>> course, the program shouldn't allow you to do something (like
>> accidentally delete everything) and then irrevocably save.
>
>Isn't that a good reason to ask before auto-saving?  Another reason
>would be to warn the user that the computer is about to do something
>unexpected.  Saving a large file generally makes the Mac "pause" for
>a second or two, and this could be disconcerting if it happened while
>you were merrily typing away.

If I can add my two penn'orth (we don't have cents over here [yet]):

One thing that bugs me generally about the Mac, for all its supreme
useability, is the general lack of straightforward autosave features. I'd
dearly appreciate the facility in QuarkXPress, for example.

Yet on my trusty old PC, WordPerfect 4.2 handles the task effortlessly. And
we're talking about software dated *1986*, on a creaking 8086 running at
4.77MHz! On the 80386 sitting beside this Mac at work, the wait message
barely shows on the screen.

So what if it occasionally bips at me when the keyboard buffer fills up
during the autosave procedure? Who types that fast 100% of the time anyway?


For the record, WP 4.2 saves the work in progress to a temporary file, in
my case every 5 minutes, which is deleted when you quit the program. If you
choose not to do a conventional save before quitting, that's up to you. If
the machine crashes, the temp file remains, and can be easily recovered on
startup.

Quick, simple and efficient. So why isn't it standard the Mac?

And while I'm on the moan, who gives a monkey's about having to manually
eject a floppy disk? I don't see anyone bitching about manually ejecting
SyQuest cartridges (which I use more often than floppies), so what's the
difference?

In anticipation of the flak ...


Chris

Chris Reed                              c/o DTP Design Unit
Email: [e-mail]         University of Sheffield
Tel:   [phone] (direct line)        SHEFFIELD
Fax:   [phone]                      S10 2TN, United Kingdom

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 14:46:47 PST
From: [e-mail] (Salient Software)
Subject: Backup Program

In article <[e-mail]>
([e-mail]), you write:

    Date: Mon, 5 Jul 93 11:12:36 MET DST
    From: Christian F. Buser <[e-mail]>
    Subject: BACKUP PROGRAM

    >Is there software out there that can use such a tape drive to back up my
    >brand new 120 Megabyte hard disk?

    Mike,

    I can recommend FASTBACK from Fifth Generation Software. Works perfectly
    for me with a very old Tandberg type drive (for DC6150 cartridges) from
    Micronet, but it should work with virtually all kinds of SCSI devices.

    I only have their toll-free US phone number, but no address:
       [phone]

The correct number is 1-800-766-7283

Fifth Generation Systems, Inc.
10049 N. Reiger Road
Baton Rouge, LA  70809-4559
Business Phone: [phone]
FAX:                    [phone]
Sales Phone:    [phone]

Fifth Generation Systems Ltd.
Cliveden Office Village,
Lancaster Road, High Wycombe,
Bucks, England HP12 3YZ
Business Phone: [phone]
Support:                44-494-442224
FAX:                    44-494-442225

FGS Hong Kong Ltd.
1 Harbour Road
Suite 3319 Convention Plaza
Wanchai, Hong Kong
Business Phone: [phone]
FAX:                    852-824-3200


    Their European address is:

       Fifth Generation Systems, Ltd.
       Cliveden Office Village
       Lancaster Road
       High Wycombe                phone:   [phone]
       Bucks HP12 3BR              fax:     [phone]
       Great Britain

Fifth Generation Systems wordwide tech support numbers:

                        Toll   24
Country                  Phone number       Free?  Hour?
========================================================
North America

USA, Canada, Puerto Rico 1-800-766-7283      Yes   Yes
 -------------------------------------------------------
Europe/Africa

Belgium                  078 11 04 72        Yes   Yes
France                   05 90 86 80         Yes   Yes
Germany*                 02151 951 430       No    No
Netherlands              06 022 9706         Yes   Yes
Sweden                   020 732 921         Yes   Yes
United Kingdom           0800 442221         Yes   Yes
All other countries      (44) 494 442221     No    Yes
 -------------------------------------------------------
Pacific Rim

Australia                0014-800-128-493    Yes   Yes
Hong Kong                800-5835            Yes   Yes
Indonesia                00-800-011-0204     Yes   Yes
Japan                    0031-12-3241        Yes   Yes
Korea                    008-14-800-0207     Yes   Yes
Malaysia                 800-2387            Yes   Yes
New Zealand              0800-447882         Yes   Yes
Singapore                800-7780            Yes   Yes
Taiwan                   0080-13-8245        Yes   Yes
Thailand                 001-800-12-066-0162 Yes   Yes
All other countries      [phone]      No    Yes

 -------------------------------------------------------
Latin America

All Countries            [phone]      No    Yes
 -------------------------------------------------------
*FGS Germany provides their own support in German during
 normal business hours.

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Date: 6 Jul 93 13:12:39 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Ken  Linger )
Subject: Can I Change My SE/30 ROMs?

I have an SE/30 and was noticing while tinkering around inside of it that,
next to the SIMMs are ROMs which look like they can be replaced just as easily
as swapping SIMMs.  Of course, I doubt that anything is available, but I
thought I'd ask.  If, for some reason, they are, then what can I get and where
can I get it?

Again, assuming I could do something, would there be any benefit?  Nothing
like becoming 32 bit clean (without Mode32/Enablers)?

I don't know my ROM version off hand.  I'm at work on a PC.  I bought the
SE/30 in September, 1990, though.

Also, I noticed that the other board on the side of the Mac is a plain SE
board (the date on it was circa 1985) though the motherboard was for an SE/30
(circa 1989).  Any possible revisions to this one?

Basically, I'd like to know what I can do to improve my computer, if anything,
beyond adding multi-meg SIMMs and a Daystar (done both).

Thanks for any assistance,

Ken Linger
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 10:02:32 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Copyright (R)

Lars H. Andersen wrote, re. "FileMaker Pro printing":
>
>[e-mail] asks:
>
>>1- ALTERNATE PAGE PRINTING --
>>does anyone know if FileMaker Pro is capable of printing alternate pages
>>so that I can use both sides of a page to save on bulk?
>
>Although I can't give a full description of this because of copyright
>protection I would like to contribute with a hint.  I really recommend
>that all FileMaker Pro users subscribe to FileMaker Report, a journal
>published by Elk Horn Publishing, PO Box 1300, Freedom, CA 95019 USA.
>Voice phone: [phone]
>
>It is a tremendously good journal and one of the columnists Mike Harris
>solved this problem in a genious way.

I believe that Lars has overestimated the nature of the restrictions
imposed by a copyright.  The Copyright law protects the published
expression of an idea, but not the idea itself.  Thus it would be illegal
to photocopy or scan the article and republish it in this Digest.  But it
would not be illegal to quote a short portion of it for scientific or
critical purposes.  Nor would it be illegal to parphrase the main idea in
your own words.  There is certainly no need to restrict yourself to a coy
"hint" that does not even mention the journal issue and page number of the
relevant information!

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 10:47:30 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Monty Hampton)
Subject: Dollars ans $ense (R)

On Sat, 26 Jun 93 14:27:57 -0700 Michael Ross <[e-mail]> writes:

>Dollars and $ense sure has been passed around alot recently! The
>current "owners" are a small company called Software Developers'
>Consortium, and their number is 801-288-1222.
>
>I spoke to them briefly a couple of weeks ago. They're planning a
>version 6.0, mainly a bug fix, for December. (No new features? How
>can they expect to compete!) They aren't really clear on whether they
>have an up-to-date registered users mailing list, so I'd sure give
>them a call if I were you...
>
>I, myself, can't be bothered to wait. I went out and ordered Andrew
>Tobias' Managing Your Money.

I appreciate the new information on D&S new "owners". I have been a
long-time user of D&S and feel the program has the smoothest, faster
interface around. It has some graphing and report limitations (like not
listing the check number on reports from a distribution (expense) account),
but it sure is easy to enter transactions with the AutoInvoke and
Descriptor features. I too recently switched to MYM to have a total
financial package, but really miss D&S. Good luck with MYM! I am attempting
to get together a mialing list of MYM users. If you'd be interested please
drop me a line and I'll add your name.

Monty
E.M. Hampton, OUHSC College of Pharmacy & OKC DVAMC
921 NE 13th Street,Oklahoma City, OK 73104 [phone]
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue,  6 Jul 1993 15:59:31 +0000
From: LTB Wright <[e-mail]>
Subject: Easy View 2.3

I am looking for a copy of Easy View 2.3.  I understood it was supposed to be
in the app directory at sumex, but I couldn't find it there.  My archie search
gave me two other potential ftp sources, but I have not been able to reach
either.  Can someone tell me where to find it?

Brian Wright
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1993 11:24:13 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: EasyView backward search request

> > EasyView is magic.
>
> Thanks. As its author, I can't see any magic in it.  :-)

No, Thank YOU Akif. ;-) This IS a truly great program.  I love the new
'draggable' panes.  Now, if I might beg for one feature... Could you
add the ability to search backwards?  Usually my searches are for
something fairly recent in infomac, and I have to guess where to start
in the list.  This would be very handy, and I'm guessing that someone
with your talent could add it fairly easily.  Either way, thanks for
EasyView.  It really adds to the value of infoMac and Tidbits.

--Brian Pickerill  <[e-mail]>

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Date: 6 Jul 93 10:37:22 GMT+7
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Hard Drive Problem - A BIG ONE

I turned on my LC 4/40 Sunday afternoon and my hard drive crashed.
What I mean by crashed is it never started turning - it just froze
up.  After trying a few things - it still would not work.  I brought
the drive to a Centris 610 and it start up fine.  I was able to back
up the hard drive onto a file server.  We tried turning it on again
and it wouldn't work any more for the Centris 610.  In anger I went
home - put it back into my LC and it is working fine.  WHAT THE HECK
IS GOING ON WITH IT?  Is it going to crash again?  Has anyone else
had this problem?  Should a hard drive be dying after only 2 1/2
years?  Please help

Mark Fitzgerald

[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 10:50:32 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Monty Hampton)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #130

On Sat, 26 Jun 93 16:02:15 Tony D'Emanuele writes:

>I want to buy an internal fax/modem for my PB180. Has anyone any
>recommendations on hardware/software?

YES! Global Village PowerPort modems get my vote! I suggest you shop around
as you can by through reseller for less than you can buy direct. EMH
E.M. Hampton, OUHSC College of Pharmacy & OKC DVAMC
921 NE 13th Street,Oklahoma City, OK 73104 [phone]
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 17:16:17 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Herb Kroemer)
Subject: Keyboard Numbers for PB 180

The keys on the various keyboards are internally identified by certain
numbers, (NOT to be confused with the ASCII numbers of the characters
represented by most of the keys). For example, on the extended keyboard,
the arrow-up key is key #126, etc..

Now here is my question: Does anybody know the numbers associated with the
keys on the Powerbook 180, especially those that do not stand for ASCII
symbols?

Thanks in advance.
Herb Kroemer

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 12:59:39 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Rick Worley)
Subject: LaserWriter 8.0

  I upgraded all our macs to Laserwriter 8.0 drivers (downloaded from
ftp.apple.com), it seems to work well and is faster than old drivers.  For
macs still using system 6 you could use 6.0.8 disks (also available on
ftp.apple.com) to install a system 7 compatible printer driver (LaserWriter
7.0) or better yet install Laserwriter 8.0 drivers (it does work with
system 6).
  You can network install Laserwriter 8.0 drivers by manually copying the
following files to System 7 Extension folder: PrintMonitor, LaserWriter
8.0, and Printer Descriptions folder.  For system 6 manually copy the same
items to system folder and also copy Backgrounder.




Rick Worley
WL/ELM  BLDG 620
2241 AVIONICS CIRCLE SUITE 25
WRIGHT-PATTERSON AFB OH 45433-7327
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 17:06:41 +0000
From: Mike Brudenell <[e-mail]>
Subject: LaserWriter 8 and A4 paper as the default

[Please forgive the plethora of messages about LaserWriter 8!]

I know this has been bandied about for some time now, but I still haven't seen
any CLEAR instructions on how to do this, so....

Could someone please explain how to modify the LaserWriter 8 driver so as to
default to A4 paper?

I have found out already it is NOT just a case of editing the PPD file (at
least, not for me, it isn't! :-)

Also that it is SOMETHING to do with the PREC resource ids 0 and 1, and MAY
also
be something to do with resource fPRT id 0, and "flushing the Chooser" (by
removing all LaserWriter drivers from the Extensions folder, opening & closing
Chooser, and replacing the drivers in the folder)

Can anyone (preferably who has done it and had it work! :-) say which
resources
I need to change, which fields and (ideally) the values to go in there?
Offers
of a pre-configured driver gratefully received! ;-)

                            Mike B-)

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 12:58:32 +0000
From: Mike Brudenell <[e-mail]>
Subject: LaserWriter 8 and PostScript file creation

A silly question, perhaps, but....

I have LaserWriter 8 installed and background printing turned on.

If I select a printer on the network and print, a message box appears briefly
as
the document is spooled to disk, then control returns to me and the document
gets sent to the printer by PrintMonitor in the background.

Wonderful.

If I select "File" and ask the PostScript to be saved to a file on disk I
again
get the message box appearing as the document is spooled to disk, but then
instead of control returning to me a further message box tells me that the
PostScript file is being created and tells me how much has so far been written
to disk in Kb.  Only when this is complete is control returned to me.

Is this normal?  Or should PostScript file creation also be happening in the
background (like it used to with previous LaserWriter drivers)?  If what I'm
seeing isn't normal, does anyone have any ideas why this is happening (and
yes,
I *did* install LaserWriter 8 properly with the Installer!)

                                Mike B-)

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 13:04:03 +0000
From: Mike Brudenell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Laserwriter drivers pre-v8 and PathWorks for VMS 1.2

We have just upgraded our PathWorks for VMS (Macintosh) server software on our
VAX/VMS machine.  This provides access to a couple of VMS PostScript printer
queues for a small number of Macs.

Since the upgrade jobs sent to the queues served by the PathWorks print server
have been failing when they try and use the "setdefaulttimeouts" command.

So far I have traced the problem to the fact we have HP IIIsi's which DO
implement the "setdefaulttimeouts" command BUT we have a password set on them
to
prevent people using this command.

Since the PathWorks upgrade the Macs seems to be including a little extra
PostScript (called "Patch Prep") in the job before the real stuff starts.

The Macs are running System 7.0.1 and System 7.1 with the accompanying
LaserWriter drivers.  [Using LaserWriter 8 does NOT exhibit the problem]

Does anyone know the purpose of this Patch Prep code (it's tucked at the start
of the POST resource in the LaserWriter driver) and why it has suddenly
started
being included in the data the Mac sends to the VAX's spooler?

                            Mike B-)

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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 93 12:42:49 MEZ
From: David Steiner <[e-mail]>
Subject: LocalTalk on Ethernet (Q)

It must be a correllary to Murphy's Law that when one passes over a
topic in the Digest do to irrelevance to one's own situation, it
will become relevant within a month or so.

We have a few IIsi's with brand new ethernet cards and a Personal
LaserWriter NT. Some time ago, there were some posts about
connecting a LocalTalk device (printer) to the ethernet to eliminate
the need to switch network protocols in the chooser. We would like
to use something like EtherPrint (or AsantePrint or SprintTalk or
??) to connect the NT to the ethernet. I would like to use a
hardware solution instead of a software solution (especially since
it would be _my_ Mac that would take the performance hit :-( ).

I read the review in MacUser a couple of months ago, but I would appreciate
hearing from anyone out there with some experience with these types of
interfaces (pros and cons). Alternate solutions are also welcome.

TIA.

David R. Steiner, Research Assoc., Remote Sensing & GIS
ISPA-Uni. Osnabrueck     D-49364 Vechta, Germany

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 13:29:18 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Mac TSP v.4.2 (C)

In your posting you write:
>
>Several of my colleges and I are transferring our empirical work from
>mainframe SAS to macintoshes (SE/30's) and are looking at Mac TSP v4.2.
>If there is anyone out there that has had experience with using Mac TSP
>I'd appreciate hearing the pros and cons as you see them.
>I'm particularly interested in how well or if the program can use virtual
>memory, but any general comments would also be appreciated.  Thanks.
>
Robert,

Have you looked into other Stat applications like SPSS for the Macintosh?

SPSS has can be reached at

    SPSS Inc.
    444 North Michigan Ave.
    Chicago, Illinois
    60611
    Voice: [phone]
    Fax:   [phone]

Good Luck

Vinko
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 12:21:45 EDT
From: J S Greenfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: MS, Mac Toolbox and dynamic menus

[e-mail] (Charlie Mingo) writes:

>Back when MS first introduced reconfigurable menus (in 1985), there
>was some debate why MENU resources weren't used (which meant that the
>menus couldn't be edited in ResEdit).  In response, MS claimed that
>they could only offer reconfigurable menus using their own code.  I
>have no reason to think they were lying.

I'll have to go back and check IM I to see just what was available,
but I don't believe it's true that they *couldn't* offer reconfigurable
menus without skirting the menu manager.  (Certainly, it would not be as
convenient as with the current toolbox, but that's another story.)

More likely, they just felt it was easier to create their own menu manager.


>Neither of us has much expertese in the details of this.  There are a
>lot of practical details which can make things seem more difficult than
>you might think -- for example, it might be too slow to dynamically create
>menus using the toolbox routines.

If there's one thing that Microsoft couldn't care less about, it's speed.
They probably set the all-time record for slow everything--including
menus.  In fact, they don't even bother to compile the bulk of their programs
down to native code.  Rather, they use interpreted p-code.

I simply cannot believe that speed limitations of the Mac Toolbox have
anything to do with their design decisions.  By my understanding, it has a
lot more to do with their interest in unifying their Mac and Windows
code bases.


>Most Mac apps with changable menus I have seen actually contain fully
>defined menus for each of the possible variations, and switch among
>them.

Well, this is certainly not necessary, and would not make sense unless
one had very few variations.


>I don't think MS had this option, as their approach was too
>flexible -- you can place any command on any menu, for example.

This can be handled quite easily using the Mac Menu Manager.  Adding
a command to a given position in a given menu is quite simple.  Interpreting
commands from such dynamic menus is easy, also.  Whenever you receive a
menu command, you retrieve the text of the menu command and use *that*
(rather than the menu id and item number) to determine what is to be
done.  (And if you have a lot of different commands, as in MS Word, you
probably use a hashing function to map the command names to a value that
can be easily used to select the appropriate action.)


--
J. S. Greenfield
[e-mail]
(I like to put 'greeny' here,
but my d*mn system wants a
*real* name!)                        "What's the difference between an
orange?"

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 10:30:38 EST
From: Scott Kaplan           <[e-mail]>
Subject: MS Word and the Menu Manager

In Info-Mac #135, Charlie Mingo responds:
>Neither of us has much expertese in the details of this.  There are a
>lot of practical details which can make things seem more difficult than
>you might think -- for example, it might be too slow to dynamically create
>menus using the toolbox routines.

Obviously I have no idea how much programming and work with the Mac Toolbox
you have or haven't done, so I'll only speak for myself.  I've used the menu
manager for just that kind of thing, and had little trouble with it.  Now,
to be fair, maybe the speed of updates for 1985 Macs wasn't acceptable to
Microsoft, and so they made their own menu maagement routines.  Okay.  But
the program has undergone major rewrites since then, giving Microsoft ample
opportunity to place the menu management back on the Toolbox, gaining
Word better compatability.

Menu updates like this are not frequent (in terms of computer time,
especially).  The Toolbox routines are certainly quick enough to redefine
the program's menus with.  While I can see why many developers would put all
possible variants of their menus into resources--It is quicker, the space
requirement is small, and changing the menus doesn't require
recompilation--it isn't necessary to a keep the program acceptbly fast, not
by any means.  And MicroSoft's need to place arbitrary menu entrys in at any
time can certainly be fulfilled through the Toolbox.  I've used it, and it's
runs quick enough that I don't notice a delay at all.

Another topic is the automatic save which you brought up (I forgot about it
last time.)  Other programs had such a feature before Word did.  The
automatic backup on WordPerfect was there before MS implemented it for Word,
and it's quite flexible, with variable time backup, original copy backup toa
different directory, and backups which are often quick enough as to be
unnoticable.  Also, the NOW Save utility is much more flexible and well
thought out.  This is not a strong part of Word's feature set.

Scott Kaplan
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
[e-mail]
These opinions are mine...But I'm willing to share.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 18:05 GMT
From: John Armstrong <[e-mail]>
Subject: MS Word documents

I have been working on a MS Word document (imported from elsewhere)
and keep getting a curious occurence.  The document is split into
about a dozen or so files for convenience with File Series and page
numbering set up accordingly.  When I try and insert Table of Contents
or Index, or try printing, I get a "Can't get <next file>" error
message - even though the file is sitting right there in the folder.
The same happens with most of the files in the file series.

So, I save the files as normal MS Word documents but with different names,
then rename them back again outside of MS Word.  Then back in Word I start
the contents/index/print sequences and this time they work fine. Good,
think I - time-consuming, but I got there eventually.

Today I try reprinting and get "Can't get <next file>" once again!
I haven't done anything with any of the files or the folder they are
in since last week, so what gives?  Has anyone else come across this
or know what is going on?  (No advice about *not* using Word, please.)

John Armstrong

------------------------------

Date: 6 Jul 1993 12:43:09 -0600
From: "Glockzin Donald" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Need System 3.3 Disks

Someone in our facility needs system disks for an old Mac 512. I believe that
we need Syst 3.3 or earlier. I checked at ftp.apple.com, but Sys 5 was the
earliest version found. Does anyone know of an ftp site to get these disk
images (400K disks)? Or can someone send me the files? Any help would be
appreciated.

THANKS -- DG
Donald Glockzin
Lead Engineer
Motorola - CIG
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 08:25:49 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: NowSave

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> > ...And of
> > course, the program shouldn't allow you to do something (like
> > accidentally delete everything) and then irrevocably save.
>
> Isn't that a good reason to ask before auto-saving?  Another reason
> would be to warn the user that the computer is about to do something
> unexpected.  Saving a large file generally makes the Mac "pause" for
> a second or two, and this could be disconcerting if it happened while
> you were merrily typing away.

No - it's a good reason to fix the program so that an autosave
can't harm anything. What with all the data that is lost for
various reasons, _anything_ that gets in the way of saving is
poor design at best. If Word had multiple Undos then it
wouldn't be a problem and everyone would wonder why they bother
to prompt you.

As far as pausing for a second or so - that's _much_ less
distracting than having a silly dialog come up that stops you
>From typing (which the save pause has never seemed to do to me
in other programs - that's what keyboard buffers are for) and
forces you to hit a Return in the middle of your train of
thought. As someone who writes constantly, I can't tell you how
angry I get when a modal dialog jumps in my face every X
minutes and asks if I want to save. The whole point of a word
processor is to make writing easier, and if I wanted to be
interrupted every X minutes, I'd get someone to come in and
yell at me periodically. When I'm writing, I want to write, not
converse with the program about the advisibility of saving the
document at this particular minute in time, and again in a
another few minutes, and so on.

In Word's specific case, it would be trivial for them to put
"Saving..." in their little status bar at the left hand bottom
of the screen to indicate why the machine had paused.
Non-modal, non-intrusive, and not nearly as irritating. And if
the save is going to take that long, perhaps over 10 seconds, a
simple modal progress dialog would inform the user without
requiring any additional thought. Of course, if saving takes
that long, then perhaps they should look at why it can't save
more quickly.

cheers ... -Adam

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 17:22:20 +0900
From: [e-mail] (Jeong-Hyun Kim)
Subject: Please enlighten me (Q)

Translating Kawasaki's column on Aug 93 MacWorld, I got stuck up by a few
words that I cannot find the meaning.

[...] at least he[Sculley] knows the difference between a Newton and a Fig
Newton. [...]

[...] Today-brand sponges make excellent shock-absorbing feet for Quadras,
and Norplants make good plant-food spikes. [...]

Please someone explain me what Fig Newton, sponges, Norplants, and
plant-food spikes mean. I know they have nothing to do with Macintosh, but
at least they were on MacWorld. :)
Thank you.

Jeong-hyun Kim, [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1993 11:21:17 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: PowerBook 145B

> >>What is the difference between the 145 and the 145b Powerbooks, i.e.
> >>speed grayscale etc...?
> >>I haven't seen any publication yet mentioning the 145b other than the
> >>advertisements in local newspapers.
> >
> >1) Price. Lower than the PB 145
> >2) Screen Size now exactly 640 x 480 pixels
> >3) 4mB RAM soldered on motherboard. (so you don't have to throw
> >   away 2 mB if you add an expansion card)
> >4) System software installed on harddisk. No floppies
> >   and no manuals will be supplied.
> >5) a version of "HD-Backup" will be on the harddisk
> >
> >Don't know if there are more points, but this is what I remember from a
> >presentation given by Industrade (Apple Switzerland) during one of our
> >user group meetings.
> >
> >Best regards, Christian.                 [e-mail]
>
> Can someone confirm the difference in display size? I was under the
> impression that the display size was exactly the same. I thought only
> the 180c had the 640x480 display.

Can't exactly confirm this, but I'm pretty sure you're right--they're
confusing the 180c new screen dimensions with the 145B.

Anyone used Apple's PowerBook file assistant syncing programs yet?

> Also, one of the cons of the 145B is that there is no option for an FPU.
> This was available with the 145. Based on all the flames about the
> Centris 610, this would seem to be important. ;-)

None of the PB's to my knowledge has a FPU 'option'.  Only the 170, 180 and
165c come with FPUs.  Also, you can put one in a duo dock, but not in a duo.

--Brian Pickerill  <[e-mail]>

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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 93 13:22:14 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: PowerBook 145C Screen

On Mon, 5 Jul, Chris Smith noted that Christian Buser said:

>2) Screen Size now exactly 640 x 480 pixels (PB 145b)

and asked if the statement is true.

Nope. The 145B still has the 640 by 400 screen. It's the 180C that has
the -- rather smallish -- 640 by 480 screen.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1993 08:00:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Program startup screen (?)

The screen which appears whenever an application starts up....the one that
gives the name of the app. and the name of the user, etc...is called (I think)
the program startup screen.  Is there some way of getting rid of this screen
?
That is, can you avoid having it show up at the beginning of each and every
(!)
program startup?  Help will be appreciated.  Thanks.  Ed

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 13:48:23 CDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Prograph Discussion where abouts.

Nic,

There is a Prograph discussion list. All you have to do is send a
request to "[e-mail]" with the phrase
"Subscribe <your name>" in the body of your message.

For example:

    Subscribe Nic Blackwell

I hope this helps


Vinko
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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1993 11:17:15 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Quadra Boot Beep Switcher (PowerBook Chimes)

> I just downloaded the quadra-boot-beep.hqx file from sumex (info-mac/cp...)
> and you know what?  It works on my PowerBook 140!
>
> I find this especially cool because, like many, PB users, I hate the dirty
> looks I sometimes get when I start up my PB in public and it "ZONG!"s.
> Just gotta get a nice quiet sound and I'm set . . . if it's possible to
> switch.
>
> Gabriel M. Schuyler  -- [e-mail]
>

What's cooler is that the 160, (and I presume the 165c and the 180 and 180c)
don't "Zong" at all, when the sound is turned completely down.  Someone at
Apple read my mind.  I've seen people write about the problem that the startup
chime can cause for desktop mac users as well.  Makes perfect sense (IMHO)
that it boot in silence when the control panel is set at zero.  Now I don't
have to pack a headphone plug just to reboot in a meeting or at a conference.

--Brian Pickerill  <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 11:01 EST
From: DON'T PANIC <[e-mail]>
Subject: System software won't install (Q)

Mr. Coyne,
Would one of the moderators find his real internet address?  The one he gives
is not acceptable to my MailServer IN%"'Michael Coyne, Grenfell College,
Memorial University of Newfoundlan
d'".
My answer to system installing error is that Type 2 error means an extension
did not agree with the installation.  Turn off AutoDoubler, boot disk Install
1 by pressing SHIFT  until Install 1 is loaded, and then install.  Use the
Disk Tools disk to deactivate all extensions by removing then from your system
folder before you start Install 1.  Then install the system.  Apple's
installer will not work if extensions are working.  Type 2 is called "Address
Error" FYI (For your information).  Hope this helps.
Sincerely,
[e-mail]

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Date: 06 Jul 1993 11:54:49 -0700 (MST)
From: [e-mail] (Peter Gerhardstein)
Subject: Think Reference

Regarding the Think Reference just mentioned:
Does the current version include the information contained
in the new series (Inside Macintosh:  Processes, Memory, etc.)?
Does it include the information in Vol VI?  Sorry if this is
a FAQ or a RAQ.

Peter Gerhardstein ([e-mail])
Dept. of Psychology, Univ. of Arizona, Tucson, AZ 85721

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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 07:04:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Eric H. Durbrow" <[e-mail]>

Is anyone having problems with the "network" feature with the new
Extension Manager (2.0)? Does not load the network extention set (named
Network) when my Duo plugs into a network. Is there a bug?

Eric H. Durbrow, Ph.D.
Dept of Anthropology
University of Missouri-Columbia          [e-mail]

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